Cedar Rapids' Proposed Flood Plan Could Cost $1 Billion
By Josh Hinkle, Anchor/Reporter
By
Becky Ogann
Story Created:
Oct 8, 2008 at 10:21 AM CST
Story Updated:
Oct 8, 2008 at 5:16 PM CST
CEDAR RAPIDS - Cedar Rapids has detailed the city's proposed flood prevention plan, and it could cost as much as a $1 billion.
That cost would build seven miles of protective barriers along the Cedar River. But their completion could still be ten to 15 years away.
"Most of us feel like we're getting the runaround. They don't know how we feel. They didn't lose anything," said Dianna Wicher, flood victim.
Dianna Wicher wanted to know on which side her house would sit, the one closest to the river or the one protective barriers would save.
The city's flood consultant detailed the preliminary plan that includes seven miles of levees or flood walls. Citizen input decided which would go in certain places. Downtown will most likely use the two-foot wide concrete wall, part of which will be removable. (see map at left)
"In downtown where we're pretty pinched with big office buildings, the feedback from the community is that we need to maintain a connection to the river," said Jason Hellendrung, Sasaki Associates.
Most residential areas along the river will utilize a levee system, an earthen dike anywhere from 12 to 18 feet high. Homeowners who live on the river-side of that barrier would have the possible option of the city buying their property through FEMA funding. If they decide to stay, the city will still move forward with this project.
"There'd be a limit to how much services the city would provide to that in terms of utilities and roads and street cleaning and any of that," said Hellendrung.
Dianna learned that her home is safe, although she still doubts she can live there. She says it really doesn't matter, as the levee going in her back yard will separate her from her neighbors and the rest of the city.
"I lost 23 years of my life... I can't," said Wicher.
Citizens will have a chance to voice their opinions and offer suggestions about this plan at an open house on Thursday, October 16, at the Crowne Plaza Center Ballroom from 10 to 2 and 4 to 8. In Cedar Rapids.
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Friday, Oct 10 at 7:08 AM difficult dosen't mean impossible wrote ...
Way back in 1900, they built a 17 foot high retaining wall along the coast of Galveston to prevent flooding from hurricanes. Not only that, but they raised countless buildings (churches, homes, hotels, etc.) 16 feet, and filled sand and slurry from the ocran around them, putting the city at a higher ground level. Now, if they could to that with the limited technology they had at that time.... I'm just saying, there has got to be an answer here-
Thursday, Oct 9 at 10:40 AM FYI wrote ...
Days before the flood the 5 in 1 dam Tainter gates (lower ones) as well as 5 of the 6 big upper lift gates were wide open passing the maximum design flow of water to maintain the 90.5 foot pool level above the dam. Once the upper lift gates are all at their maximum height the city is at the mercy of nature. The dam can only pass so much water, therefore, for all you dredging the river know-it-alls, making the river deeper up or down stream does NOT resolve a 500 year flood event.
Thursday, Oct 9 at 10:05 AM sig girl wrote ...
If this happened every year I could see spending that kind of money to protect the city. It will cost more to build the wall than it does to help homeowners and businesses rebuild since statistically it shouldn't happen again in our lifetime.
Thursday, Oct 9 at 8:34 AM on the wetside guy wrote ...
well lets take a look at it. Fema requires after a flood some sort of protection from flooding in the future. I agree to that. But now lets take a look at the financial impact of the flood we recieved. Wasn't it about 250 mill all said and done. Cedar Rapids has never had a flood like this on record. So we spend four times the cost of just bailing homes and people out of a flood to build an earthen wall. Ok, earthan walls on have a viable use of about 100 years. Think about it. 500 year flood.
Thursday, Oct 9 at 8:16 AM Anonymous wrote ...
What a completely short-sided and worthless plan. By diverting water IN the city, you're only flooding someone else that much worse. But hey, that's not our problem. Heaven forbid we actually look at the ROOT cause of our flooding problems- our land use patterns. If we could SLOW the water down and encourage it to infiltrate into the ground, we could minimize ALL flooding events. Instead we'll continue with our run-off watershed, only making future floods that much worse.
Thursday, Oct 9 at 12:20 AM Duh! wrote ...
Think about this... if a "storm ditch" were dug around part of the city to avert the overflow of water when flooding happens. I think that would be much cheaper and much more reliable then trying to contain such weight. Did we learn nothing from the Katrina incedent? Those walls were designed to contain. And they too failed due to the fact they never thought it would get so high. Neither did we. And you really think just building walls will be enough?? We NEVER thought the river would rise 50ft!
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 11:25 PM just some guy wrote ...
does this billion dollar price tag have a backup plan for when the water backs up north of the flood walls, than flows south behind the walls? also, I know these things take time to build but, 10-15 years to finish, there are good odds that this level of flooding could happen again in the next 10-15 years.
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 11:07 PM stagehand wrote ...
Dredging the river won't help with flooding,might only make it worse. If it is 100 feet deep above the 5n1 there is that much more water to release. Dredge below the 5n1? It's all bedrock. Look off of the D'town bridges and see for yourself. Thats why the bridges were built there. Water seeks it's own level, that's why we build dams. Would the old F Ave dam have done a better job? JUST CURIOUS. Which train bridge fell first, CRANDIC or the old Dump/Wilson bridge?
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 10:58 PM Anonymous wrote ...
the money will save the big business land - only the poor will have to leave forever from this beautiful community of friends and neighbors
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 10:51 PM wow bob and rod wrote ...
ok as a flood survivor - and completely clueless on what to do with my Ellis house - i commend your forthright honesty and good thinking. Here is a Q? why do i have to spend 30K to raise my foundation (and/or raze) and my next door neighbor does not? something fishier than the fish in my front room.....
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 10:19 PM BOB wrote ...
Yeah why not dredge the river?
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 9:59 PM Anonymous wrote ...
bottle neck the river that,s a good idea all it does is speed up the flow down river to the next town but that,s there problem right
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 8:55 PM Conspiracy/Watergate wrote ...
New city hall, new courthouse, public works updating, etc.. Where is the $$$ going from FEMA for the city?? Can't wait to hear Mayor Kay falling asleep at the wheel in a pink city of C.R. embroided volkwagon run into the 1st Avenue bridge on a breaking news story fresh from KCRG. Wake up people, flood victim or not the city is waiting and not reacting fast enough. Patience is virtue as they say, this is REALITY right in front of your faces!!!! Signed, Flood Victim # 2101
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 7:51 PM We Can't Afford Any More Gov't Spending!! wrote ...
A billion dollars divided by 130,000 Cedar Rapidians equals $7692.31 per person, or $30,769.23 for a family of 4. That's ON TOP OF the 1.8 trillion dollar federal gov't bailout that costs $6000 per person, or $24,000 for a family of four. Do YOU have $54,769 just laying around? Me neither. We still need to pay for food, shelter, clothing, transportation, health care, utilities, education... HELP!!
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 7:36 PM Anonymous wrote ...
I agree with Bob. Don't tell me it cannot be done either, it can! There is no reason it can't, absolutely NO reason!
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 7:26 PM Karma wrote ...
I would like to know what 1st grader did the picture attached to this.....but seriously this is a joke. Wow... it could take 10-15 years to complete...want to bet on another flood happening in that time.
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 7:04 PM Old Guy wrote ...
Well. Something needs to be done. I would say with contractors in this area and the unemployed first. That said. I agree with deepening the river and building a smaller wall but a lock system must be installed up stream. Or a controllable dam. That seems cheaper but i am not a contractor for that kind of work scale. Not sure but a 18' high wall. Seems a bit much and would take away from the view. Just dont know. Yes it will be big no matter what. Cost overrun is highly probable.At leastsoemwork.
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 6:48 PM What a joke wrote ...
Leave the river and the river banks alone. It was a 500 year flood. If your house gets flooded every year don't live there. Should people living along the atlantic coast build a flood wall because of high tide? I don't want to pay for a flood wall just because you all want to live next to the river in a house that never should have been built.
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 6:19 PM Map wrote ...
They don't have a map that doesn't look like its drawn by a 5 year old? I mean, there has to be something better, go out to Google Earth even. Also, why does the wall go around the Great America building? Thats a little strange. It was flooded as bad as any of the other buildings. Also, why not bulldoze that stupid Mays island. I hate having to try to park there to go to the city offices. What a crock. I guess than Timmy Boyle might get upset though... argh!
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 3:21 PM Bob wrote ...
I still say DEEPEN THE RIVER! Have you seen how shallow it is? Deepen the river by the proposed height of the wall and you won't need a wall!
Wednesday, Oct 8 at 12:19 PM Rod wrote ...
Let's see now, 200 mil 500 mil 300 mil = 1 Billion dollars. They got it right on the button for cost. What a total joke. They have no idea what this will cost so they just throw out a big number. Chaos in the midst of chaos.
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